Thanks Db. We went green at Cafe central and at my parent’s house about the same time you did. We’ll look into it.
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JK says:
July 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Got some corn today from Morse’s. Excellent and recommended.
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Woodstocker says:
July 11th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I think it would be great if they opened a Morse Stand (like in Southbridge) in East Woodstock. This part of town could use a “corner store” of some kind. I hope they consider it, I think they would do well since there is not much for miles when it comes to buying milk and eggs and fresh produce.
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Con says:
July 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Whatever happened to “Knee High by the 4th of July”?
That is – how are they able to do this so early (the fact that we had no winter notwithstanding)?
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Con says:
July 11th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
PS – What about Tomatoes? When are they at their best and where ARE the best available? Like so many of us, I grew up driving around with a Salt Shaker to sneak into various tomato patches and eat them like an Apple with salt.
Was it on The Cafe’ that I read about some simple genetic manipulation of Tomatoes, rendering a specific ‘strain’ (*?) of Tomatoes to ripen quickly and stay fully ripe AND full of that specific, excellent flavor vine-ripened Tomatoes have at their peak, but dissipates too quickly even though they appear fine.
The report said that these changes were otherwise some of the most harmless and isolated (no other effects) that the group of Scientists had encountered in the field. Best of both worlds…
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John says:
July 12th, 2012 at 6:11 am
I just had to review all genetically engineered plants that have been patented for a large agricultural company. There were thousands. Genetic engineering to improve virtually all aspects of plants is in the works. The most engineering will be to improve pest control and drought tolerance in light of global warming especially in Australia, Asia, and Africa. Thanks to Monsanto genetically engineered spores from 6 to 8 Round-Up Ready crops are all around us. Europe will be the last to benefit because of their fear of recombinant DNA.
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John says:
July 12th, 2012 at 7:22 am
In spite of the warm spring farmers have learned not to risk planting early because of that one frost. For a small garden I usually risked planting a few rows of corn early. The first year I did this I had one corn plant that survived and the rest of the corn planted the following week grew up around this plant. I watched that corn grow on a daily basis and at one point I decided to pick it the next day. The next morning I went out to harvest and discovered that the resident groundhog had been watching the same corn plant as I. He got the first corn that summer .
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Newcomer says:
July 12th, 2012 at 7:49 am
John,
Are you talking about “GMO” plants? I don’t know that much about it other than stores like Whole Foods used to run entire campaigns against the use of them in favor of organic. Is that the same kind of objection that is happening in Europe?
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John says:
July 12th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Genetically modified organisms (GMO) is the same as genetically engineered. It’s true that there are many who have some sort of fear about GMOs. I think that this started with the publication of Andromeda Strain and the isolation of the first gene (by my Grad Sch mentor) both in 1969. When Monsanto (and DeKalb in CT) developed Round-UP Ready crops (corn, cotton, soybeans, alfafa etc) which are resistant to the herbicide glyphosate, they engineered the plant with a nuclear gene rather than a chloroplast gene. As a result the recombinant glyphosate resistance gene is present in spores and spores can fly into neighboring fields. I spent a year evaluating the risks of environmental recombinant DNA for a major company developing recombinant algae, but could not find any example of a negative impact to the enviroment or health. Monsanto sued importers of Soy in Britain who imported soy flower from Argentina. Argentina has no patent protection agreement with the US so Argentinians stole Monsanto’s recombinant soybeans. You could detect the recombinant gene in the soy flower shipped to England. So the British and Europeans did not know they were eating recombinant soymeal.
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Formerly a student says:
July 17th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
John, have you ever considered the fact that, as Monsanto continues to dominate more and more of the seed market (isn’t it in the upper ninety percent of corn in the USA that is produced from their frankenseed?), they will be essentially have absolute control over how much virtually everything we eat costs? Or do you not believe in this, either? What about the farmers who get sued by Monsanto for reusing their patented frankenseeds, or whose fields get contaminated by the frankenseeds blowing out of trucks and into fields adjacent to roads? What about how they realize this — by spraying fields that they aren’t making money off of, and if the crops stay alive, sue the pants off the farmer, or if the crops die from the Round Up, oh well, screw you?
Yes, I admit that my opinions have originated from propaganda such as Food, Inc. and The Future of Food* — are the alleged benefits of frankenseeds truly worth the enormous responsibility of the company making them, run by human beings who are greedy by nature?
* The Future of Food can be watched in its entirety here. I highly recommend that everyone does so to at least expose yourself to some of the issues that have arisen in the food industry and provoke thoughts for further research.
Sounds like you have done some homework on this, FAS. I am definitely not a fan of Monsanto. It’s the use of glyphosate, the herbicide that is spread before or while planting the seeds. I’m not concerned with the GMO seeds except when Monsanto litigates neighboring farmers because Monsanto pollen flew over to other field. When they sued the European importer of Argentinian soyflower, Monsanto shot themselves in the foot by bring the public to their attention that they were eating engineered soy.
The great benefit of GMO crops is making corps more productive and stress tolerant especially for Africa, South America, Australia, and Asia where drought and heat is a bigger problem although we are hearing more about this in the US this year.
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doubtful says:
July 18th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
FAS-
Are you suggesting Monsanto has sprayed farmers crops, causing crop damage, without permission? Rubbish. I’d like to be the lawyer with that case.
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Formerly a student says:
July 19th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Doubtful, I do believe it was mentioned in that video I linked to above, or Food Inc. Although, after reading this article, perhaps that activity was due to their suspected patent infringement, not randomly. It’s been a while since I’ve watched it; I should do so again soon. Has anyone else?
I got a link to this in email today. It seems as though there’s writing in the 2013 Agricultural Appropriations Bill that would enable Monsanto to start selling their GMOs that have not been through proper channels for approval by the government after environmental, health, etc. investigations.
I’m not sure how I feel about the general idea of GMOs and their use; the main reason I’m against them is issues such as this. It seems to me that humans simply cannot handle the morality required to run a company profiting from such technology.
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John says:
July 27th, 2012 at 6:15 am
The movie “Michael Clayton” is one of my favorites. George Clooney won an Academy Award for his role, I believe. The movie is sort of a veiled story about Monsanto.
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John says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 6:42 am
From the NYTimes today:
More than 90 percent of the soybeans grown in the United States contains Monsanto’s Roundup Ready gene, which makes the crop resistant to the herbicide Roundup or generic versions known as glyphosate. That allows farmers to spray their fields with the herbicide, killing weeds while leaving the soybeans intact.
A federal jury awarded $1 billion in damages to the crop biotechnology leader Monsanto on Wednesday, saying that its arch rival DuPont had willfully infringed a patent covering Roundup Ready soybeans.
The so called “Monsanto Rider” quietly slipped into the multi-billion dollar FY 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, would require the Secretary of Agriculture to grant a temporary permit for the planting or cultivation of a genetically engineered crop, even if a federal court has ordered the planting be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement is completed.
Db
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Formerly a student says:
August 2nd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
I just enjoyed some corn from the stand across from Fairvue Farms this evening. Nice and crisp and sweet; can’t get any better.
While I too am not to concerned with what is produced from a plant itself. I am concerned about the environment. Me? I’m like Europe I think that because of what is known currently (12-2012) that because we were lied to. We could be headed for drug resistant bacteria and germs.
There currently is considerable proof from real science if looked up even on the computer that these seeds are not just altered. They have produced poisons that would normally kill all of these plants including corn. And in order not to kill them have been using something never done before. A protein inhibitor to allow their poisons to enter the cell walls within the plant so that the plant does not die from their poisons. There are currently several Chem companies that are doing this in the US. Again for me for what current research has revealed our lives could be shortened depending- – on us. The greater worry is what this will do to the bacteria on them that we are connected to and have been for millions of years.
Ah!
So did we….
Summer is now in full stride
db
A Taxpayers 2 comments posted here were moved and placed under “Taxation Trends…”. Admin
Admin;
Heard Alan Walker on the radio announce the town went green with
puchasing of all power from a renewable source.
We signed up for this option a couple of years ago perhaps you could bring it front and center again?
Db
Thanks Db. We went green at Cafe central and at my parent’s house about the same time you did. We’ll look into it.
Got some corn today from Morse’s. Excellent and recommended.
I think it would be great if they opened a Morse Stand (like in Southbridge) in East Woodstock. This part of town could use a “corner store” of some kind. I hope they consider it, I think they would do well since there is not much for miles when it comes to buying milk and eggs and fresh produce.
Whatever happened to “Knee High by the 4th of July”?
That is – how are they able to do this so early (the fact that we had no winter notwithstanding)?
PS – What about Tomatoes? When are they at their best and where ARE the best available? Like so many of us, I grew up driving around with a Salt Shaker to sneak into various tomato patches and eat them like an Apple with salt.
Was it on The Cafe’ that I read about some simple genetic manipulation of Tomatoes, rendering a specific ‘strain’ (*?) of Tomatoes to ripen quickly and stay fully ripe AND full of that specific, excellent flavor vine-ripened Tomatoes have at their peak, but dissipates too quickly even though they appear fine.
The report said that these changes were otherwise some of the most harmless and isolated (no other effects) that the group of Scientists had encountered in the field. Best of both worlds…
I just had to review all genetically engineered plants that have been patented for a large agricultural company. There were thousands. Genetic engineering to improve virtually all aspects of plants is in the works. The most engineering will be to improve pest control and drought tolerance in light of global warming especially in Australia, Asia, and Africa. Thanks to Monsanto genetically engineered spores from 6 to 8 Round-Up Ready crops are all around us. Europe will be the last to benefit because of their fear of recombinant DNA.
In spite of the warm spring farmers have learned not to risk planting early because of that one frost. For a small garden I usually risked planting a few rows of corn early. The first year I did this I had one corn plant that survived and the rest of the corn planted the following week grew up around this plant. I watched that corn grow on a daily basis and at one point I decided to pick it the next day. The next morning I went out to harvest and discovered that the resident groundhog had been watching the same corn plant as I. He got the first corn that summer
.
John,
Are you talking about “GMO” plants? I don’t know that much about it other than stores like Whole Foods used to run entire campaigns against the use of them in favor of organic. Is that the same kind of objection that is happening in Europe?
Genetically modified organisms (GMO) is the same as genetically engineered. It’s true that there are many who have some sort of fear about GMOs. I think that this started with the publication of Andromeda Strain and the isolation of the first gene (by my Grad Sch mentor) both in 1969. When Monsanto (and DeKalb in CT) developed Round-UP Ready crops (corn, cotton, soybeans, alfafa etc) which are resistant to the herbicide glyphosate, they engineered the plant with a nuclear gene rather than a chloroplast gene. As a result the recombinant glyphosate resistance gene is present in spores and spores can fly into neighboring fields. I spent a year evaluating the risks of environmental recombinant DNA for a major company developing recombinant algae, but could not find any example of a negative impact to the enviroment or health. Monsanto sued importers of Soy in Britain who imported soy flower from Argentina. Argentina has no patent protection agreement with the US so Argentinians stole Monsanto’s recombinant soybeans. You could detect the recombinant gene in the soy flower shipped to England. So the British and Europeans did not know they were eating recombinant soymeal.
John, have you ever considered the fact that, as Monsanto continues to dominate more and more of the seed market (isn’t it in the upper ninety percent of corn in the USA that is produced from their frankenseed?), they will be essentially have absolute control over how much virtually everything we eat costs? Or do you not believe in this, either? What about the farmers who get sued by Monsanto for reusing their patented frankenseeds, or whose fields get contaminated by the frankenseeds blowing out of trucks and into fields adjacent to roads? What about how they realize this — by spraying fields that they aren’t making money off of, and if the crops stay alive, sue the pants off the farmer, or if the crops die from the Round Up, oh well, screw you?
Yes, I admit that my opinions have originated from propaganda such as Food, Inc. and The Future of Food* — are the alleged benefits of frankenseeds truly worth the enormous responsibility of the company making them, run by human beings who are greedy by nature?
* The Future of Food can be watched in its entirety here. I highly recommend that everyone does so to at least expose yourself to some of the issues that have arisen in the food industry and provoke thoughts for further research.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878
Sounds like you have done some homework on this, FAS. I am definitely not a fan of Monsanto. It’s the use of glyphosate, the herbicide that is spread before or while planting the seeds. I’m not concerned with the GMO seeds except when Monsanto litigates neighboring farmers because Monsanto pollen flew over to other field. When they sued the European importer of Argentinian soyflower, Monsanto shot themselves in the foot by bring the public to their attention that they were eating engineered soy.
The great benefit of GMO crops is making corps more productive and stress tolerant especially for Africa, South America, Australia, and Asia where drought and heat is a bigger problem although we are hearing more about this in the US this year.
FAS-
Are you suggesting Monsanto has sprayed farmers crops, causing crop damage, without permission? Rubbish. I’d like to be the lawyer with that case.
Doubtful, I do believe it was mentioned in that video I linked to above, or Food Inc. Although, after reading this article, perhaps that activity was due to their suspected patent infringement, not randomly. It’s been a while since I’ve watched it; I should do so again soon. Has anyone else?
http://nelsonfarm.net/feb16.htm
I got a link to this in email today. It seems as though there’s writing in the 2013 Agricultural Appropriations Bill that would enable Monsanto to start selling their GMOs that have not been through proper channels for approval by the government after environmental, health, etc. investigations.
http://signon.org/sign/stop-the-monsanto-rider?source=s.em.mt&r_by=2362054
More information:
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/2012/07/10/house-farm-bill%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98backdoor-biotech-riders%E2%80%99-engineered-to-give-industry/
http://www.sunfood.com/blog/3530/newsletters/protect-organic-farms-from-monsanto-gmo-contamination-support-defazio-amendment/
And, for anyone who hasn’t yet watched The Future of Food (which concerns GMOs and companies such as Monsanto in general), here it is again:
http://www.hulu.com/the-future-of-food
I’m not sure how I feel about the general idea of GMOs and their use; the main reason I’m against them is issues such as this. It seems to me that humans simply cannot handle the morality required to run a company profiting from such technology.
The movie “Michael Clayton” is one of my favorites. George Clooney won an Academy Award for his role, I believe. The movie is sort of a veiled story about Monsanto.
From the NYTimes today:
More than 90 percent of the soybeans grown in the United States contains Monsanto’s Roundup Ready gene, which makes the crop resistant to the herbicide Roundup or generic versions known as glyphosate. That allows farmers to spray their fields with the herbicide, killing weeds while leaving the soybeans intact.
A federal jury awarded $1 billion in damages to the crop biotechnology leader Monsanto on Wednesday, saying that its arch rival DuPont had willfully infringed a patent covering Roundup Ready soybeans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/business/monsanto-wins-big-award-in-a-biotech-patent-case.html?_r=1&hpw
Very disturbing how much power Monsanto has.
The so called “Monsanto Rider” quietly slipped into the multi-billion dollar FY 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, would require the Secretary of Agriculture to grant a temporary permit for the planting or cultivation of a genetically engineered crop, even if a federal court has ordered the planting be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement is completed.
Db
I just enjoyed some corn from the stand across from Fairvue Farms this evening. Nice and crisp and sweet; can’t get any better.
While I too am not to concerned with what is produced from a plant itself. I am concerned about the environment. Me? I’m like Europe I think that because of what is known currently (12-2012) that because we were lied to. We could be headed for drug resistant bacteria and germs.
There currently is considerable proof from real science if looked up even on the computer that these seeds are not just altered. They have produced poisons that would normally kill all of these plants including corn. And in order not to kill them have been using something never done before. A protein inhibitor to allow their poisons to enter the cell walls within the plant so that the plant does not die from their poisons. There are currently several Chem companies that are doing this in the US. Again for me for what current research has revealed our lives could be shortened depending- – on us. The greater worry is what this will do to the bacteria on them that we are connected to and have been for millions of years.