From Rich Dempsey
The single most important factor in lethality is bullet placement.
You know that. There is a huge difference between a bullet to the head and a bullet to the leg.
A .223 bullet, properly aimed, will bring a deer down. CTDEEP raised the caliper in order to prevent “unnecessary suffering” due to lousy shooters not killing quickly.
I agree with you that there is a decidedly higher handgun rate. This is usually one on one shooting such as domestic homicide, suicide, gang fights and robbery.
While the numbers (count) of spree killings aren’t dramatically jumping higher, the numbers of dead within each shooting is getting higher.
You choose to look at the numbers of incidents; I look at the numbers of dead.
You also chose to not comment on the fact that only 278 times in 2011 was a gun used to kill someone in a self protection incident. The chance of getting struck by lightning is higher than the chance you’d use your gun to kill an intruder.
I picked out the AR15, Uzi and Tec 9 because they are the most popular weapons used. Any rapid fire gun, short or long, can kill a human. The faster they shoot, the higher the potential dead count.
Who will pay for the database? You will.
Let’s apply the second amendment.
The Random House College Dictionary (1980) gives four definitions for the word “regulate,” which were all in use during the Colonial period and one more definition dating from 1690 (Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition, 1989). They are:
1) To control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc.
2) To adjust to some standard or requirement as for amount, degree, etc.
3) To adjust so as to ensure accuracy of operation.
4) To put in good order.
Well regulated and user funded, like the gas tax.
There are registration fees for cars and license fees for drivers. In a national NCIC plan, you pay to get a national gun permit, approved in all states, after you complete a certified firearms course. Concealed carry permits cost a bit more and should have local approval.
Each weapon should have a registration fee assigned to it. The higher the caliper and capacity, the higher the fee.
The fees will cover the costs, and can be adjusted accordingly.
Personally, I’d like to see a weapons insurance requirement in place too. (For the Dick Cheney’s out there).
Why bother? What is the value, in money, of one less murder?
A study by Iowa State University found that each burglary in the United States—a car break-in, for example—costs $41,288. For armed robberies the cost increases eightfold, to $335,733. Every aggravated assault costs $145,379. Each rape costs $448,532.
Then there is murder. The researchers, led by sociologist Matt DeLisi, put the price tag at a whopping $17,252,656. ( 17 million bucks) That means in 2009, according to the FBI, murder cost the United States almost $263 billion—nearly as much the federal government annually spends on Medicaid.
The FBI report for 2012 actually reports the following:
Preliminary figures indicate that, as a whole, law enforcement agencies throughout the nation reported an increase of 1.9 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first 6 months of 2012 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2011. The violent crime category includes murder, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2012 increased 1.5 percent when compared with data from the same time period in 2011. Property crimes include burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft. Arson is also a property crime, but data for arson are not included in property crime totals. Figures for 2012 indicate that arson increased 3.2 percent when compared to 2011 figures from the same time period.
My point still is that there are many perfectly legal gun owners out there that change over time. Remember the two volunteer firefighters shot and killed in upstate New York while they responded to a fire some nut had set? That could have been us.
I think the cops ought to know what they are responding to. Civilians don’t have the right to access NCIC data. It’s a perfect, proven place for this data.
Parts of California actually have police teams that go and collect guns involved in new restraining orders.
Guns, like cars don’t kill people. The rules for guns could follow the motor vehicle model and make us all a little bit safer. There were 32,000 vehicular deaths in 2011, down from a high of 54,000 back in the 70’s. Those deaths decreased because we imposed more regulations and safety devices (seatbelt, airbags, etc).
We can do the same with guns.
No one is saying all gun owners are crazy. Gun owners are people and people are fallible. They make mistakes and some change and people die.
Rich Dempsey EMT
These opinions are mine and do not reflect any organization. (Especially anons)